All the playoff scenarios

[WingsfaninMA]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but here is what I have.

In the East:

If BUF def BOS and ROC def PHI:

4. Rochester @ 1. Buffalo
3. Boston @ 2. New York

If BUF def BOS and PHI def ROC:

4. Philadelphia @ 1. Buffalo
3. Boston @ 2. New York

If BOS def BUF, NY def MIN, and ROC def PHI:

4. Rochester @ 1. New York
3. Boston @ 2. Buffalo

If BOS def BUF, MIN def NY, and ROC def PHI:

4. Rochester @ 1. Buffalo
3. New York @ 2. Boston

If BOS def BUF, NY def MIN, and PHI def ROC:

4. Philadelphia @ 1. New York
3. Boston @ 2. Buffalo

If BOS def BUF, MIN def NY, and PHI def ROC:

4. Philadelphia @ 1. Buffalo
3. New York @ 2. Boston



For the West:


If COL def EDM:

4. Colorado @ 1. Calgary
3. San Jose @ 2. Portland

If EDM def COL and MIN def NY:

4. Minnesota @ 1. Calgary
3. San Jose @ 2. Portland

If EDM def COL and NY def MIN:

4. Edmonton @ 1. Calgary
3. San Jose @ 2. Portland

[CW7]

Thank for the review. Wow, the East is the most complicated.

[RockyNY]

This is fun to be on the East Side.

NY has chance to be number 1 to 3.
Buffalo has chance to be number 1 to 2
Boston has chance to be number 2 to 3.

Gosh, this is really fun, and man, league got lucky this time around

Roy

[WingsfaninMA]

Originally Posted by RockyNY

This is fun to be on the East Side.

NY has chance to be number 1 to 3.
Buffalo has chance to be number 1 to 2
Boston has chance to be number 2 to 3.

Gosh, this is really fun, and man, league got lucky this time around

Roy

Yup ... crazy three way race at the top, and a win-or-go-home for the 4 seed. Good finish for the East.

[phiwings]

Originally Posted by WingsfaninMA

Yup ... crazy three way race at the top, and a win-or-go-home for the 4 seed. Good finish for the East.

Go Boston, New York, and of course the WINGS!!!

[RockyNY]

I need someone to do this.

As I ll be in Minnesota for 5 days, April 17 to 21, attending Swarm-Titans game, going all over the place in Minnesota and attending my best friend's son's birthday party, can someone email me the results of those following games?

Boston @ Buffalo
Philadelphia @ Rochester
Edmonton @ Colorado

If anyone that is willing to do it, please PM me so I can give you my email address. I dont post my email address on this message board.

Thank you - Roy

[smilliron19]

Hopefuly the Hawks will wake up from their sleepwalk starting in the second half vs Calgary and through this past weekends game. I think the alarm is set and home cooking will bring the Hawks the playoffs!

[Ifireun]

Here in Toronto both the Rock and Maple Leafs have ended their seasons by missing the playoffs, nevertheless these teams have one thing in common - they're the best golfers in their respective leagues.

Good luck to all the playoff bound teams. It's now Buffalo road trip time!

[swami24]

Being a Leafs fan must be great. You always know when you schedule spring vacation.

Maybe this time, I'll finally get to make a trip to Newark!

[wordup!]

Originally Posted by swami24

Being a Leafs fan must be great. You always know when you schedule spring vacation.

Maybe this time, I'll finally get to make a trip to Newark!

and now a fan of the rock!

[Vin]

Isn't Calgary the #1 seed overall now? If CGY lost and BUF won, then they'd both be tied at 11-5, but CGY wins the common-opponents tiebreaker....

[RushFan2]

All I can say is "GO TITIANS!!!!!!!!!!!". I would love to make a trip down Hwy 2 to watch my first ever Playoff game. Of course the Rush have to help themselves as well. I guess it will come down to which team wants it more.

[WingsfaninMA]

Originally Posted by Vin

Isn't Calgary the #1 seed overall now? If CGY lost and BUF won, then they'd both be tied at 11-5, but CGY wins the common-opponents tiebreaker....

Yes, Calgary is the #1 overall seed.

[Vin]

Thanks. I didn't see that documented anywhere though. I would have thought that the league might have mentioned that....

Looks like we might have a repeat of 2004 - hopefully, with a different result!

[WingsfaninMA]

Nah ... We are going to relive the 1987 Stanley Cup Finals, Game 6, style.

[UBheavy11]

craziness for the East... West is pretty much set

[BoxItUp_Boston]

Originally Posted by WingsfaninMA

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but here is what I have.

In the East:

...

If BOS def BUF, MIN def NY, and ROC def PHI:

4. Rochester @ 1. Buffalo
3. New York @ 2. Boston

...

I'm almost afraid to ask this, as there have already been so many threads on how tie-breaks are decided. (there were so many, I ended up more confused by trying to read them all!)

But in this scenario, what puts Buffalo seeded ahead of Boston? We'd both be 10-6, and 1-1 head-to-head, right?

Does it go to goals for/against? Or is this where the much-debated inter- vs intra-league record gets brought in?

[swami24]

Originally Posted by WingsfaninMA

Nah ... We are going to relive the 1987 Stanley Cup Finals, Game 6, style.

And maybe 74 and 75 finals on the way to that game! As long as it's not 1980 and Leon Stickle.

[WingsfaninMA]

Originally Posted by BoxItUp_Boston

I'm almost afraid to ask this, as there have already been so many threads on how tie-breaks are decided. (there were so many, I ended up more confused by trying to read them all!)

But in this scenario, what puts Buffalo seeded ahead of Boston? We'd both be 10-6, and 1-1 head-to-head, right?

Does it go to goals for/against? Or is this where the much-debated inter- vs intra-league record gets brought in?

1) Head to head: Tied at 1-1.

2) Divisional record: Tied at 7-5 (BUF: 1-1 vs MIN, 1-0 vs POR, 1-0 vs EDM, plus 7-5 in division; BOS: 1-0 vs MIN, 1-0 vs CAL, 1-0 vs SJS, 0-1 vs POR, 7-5 in division).

3) Record against opponents played a equal number of times:

NYT: No, Boston played 3x, Buffalo only twice
PHI: No, Boston played 3x, Buffalo only twice
ROC: No, Buffalo played 3x, Boston only twice
TOR: Buffalo played 3x, Boston only twice
POR: BUF 1-0, BOS 0-1
All other west teams: No, BUF played MIN twice, BOS played them once, and all other teams in the west didn't play both of them

Therefore, Buffalo is 1-0 against common opponents (POR), while BOS is 0-1. Buffalo wins the tiebreaker.

[BoxItUp_Boston]

Originally Posted by WingsfaninMA

1) Head to head: Tied at 1-1.

2) Divisional record: Tied at 7-5 (BUF: 1-1 vs MIN, 1-0 vs POR, 1-0 vs EDM, plus 7-5 in division; BOS: 1-0 vs MIN, 1-0 vs CAL, 1-0 vs SJS, 0-1 vs POR, 7-5 in division).

3) Record against opponents played a equal number of times:

NYT: No, Boston played 3x, Buffalo only twice
PHI: No, Boston played 3x, Buffalo only twice
ROC: No, Buffalo played 3x, Boston only twice
TOR: Buffalo played 3x, Boston only twice
POR: BUF 1-0, BOS 0-1
All other west teams: No, BUF played MIN twice, BOS played them once, and all other teams in the west didn't play both of them

Therefore, Buffalo is 1-0 against common opponents (POR), while BOS is 0-1. Buffalo wins the tiebreaker.

Wow.

a) Thanks for that analysis. It was well-written and very clear.
b) Who could have imagined that a single, mid-season OT loss (might) have such an impact?! Sigh.

thanks again!

[RockyNY]

http://www.nll.com/article.php?id=3919

Friday's game between Colorado & Edmonton will play a major role in deciding the final playoff spot in the West Division.


FIVE TEAMS BATTLE FOR TWO PLAYOFF BERTHS

Final spots up for grabs in final weekend of season

04/13/2009

The National Lacrosse League enters the final weekend of the regular season with two of the playoff berths still up for grabs, one in each division. In the East, Philadelphia and Rochester are in contention for the final playoff spot. Rochester hosts Philadelphia on Saturday, with the winner advancing to the playoffs. In the West, Colorado, Edmonton and Minnesota are all in contention for the final spot. Colorado can clinch with a win over Edmonton. Edmonton and Minnesota each have to win and receive outside help to clinch.

Each of the league's twelve teams play their final regular season game this weekend. Of the twelve teams, six have clinched a playoff berth, while five others remain in playoff contention.

NLL Playoff Scenarios entering the games of April 17-18 (final games of regular season):

West Division

CALGARY ROUGHNECKS (11-4): Clinched the West Division regular season title and the top overall seed in the playoffs. Will host the West #4 seed (Colorado, Edmonton or Minnesota) in the Divisional Semifinals.

PORTLAND LUMBERJAX (9-6): Clinched the #2 seed in the West Division. Will host San Jose in the Divisional Semifinals.

SAN JOSE STEALTH (7-8): Clinched the #3 seed in the West Division. Will play at Portland in the Divisional Semifinals.

COLORADO MAMMOTH (6-9): Clinches a playoff berth with a win over Edmonton.

MINNESOTA SWARM (6-9): Clinches a playoff berth with a win over New York AND a Colorado loss to Edmonton.

EDMONTON RUSH (5-10): Clinches a playoff berth with a win over Colorado AND a Minnesota loss to New York.

East Division

BUFFALO BANDITS (10-5): Clinched a playoff berth and a first round home
playoff game. Can clinch the East Division regular season title with a win over
Boston OR a New York loss to Minnesota.

NEW YORK TITANS (9-6): Clinched a playoff berth. Can clinch a home playoff game with a win over Minnesota OR a Boston loss to Buffalo. Can clinch the East Division regular season title with a win over Minnesota AND a Buffalo loss to Boston.

BOSTON BLAZERS (9-6): Clinched a playoff berth. Can clinch a home playoff game with a win over Buffalo AND a New York loss to Minnesota.

PHILADELPHIA WINGS (7-8): Can clinch a playoff berth with a win over Rochester.

ROCHESTER KNIGHTHAWKS (6-9): Can clinch a playoff berth with a win over Philadelphia.

TORONTO ROCK (5-10): Eliminated from playoff contention.

The 2009 Playoffs open on the weekend of May 1st. Be sure to follow all of the action of an exciting final weekend of the regular season live on the NLL Network at NLL.com.

[WingsfaninMA]

Colorado 10 - 9.

West is set.

4. Colorado @ 1. Calgary
3. San Jose @ 2. Portland

[Kosty]

Crap, now the Swarm have nothing to play for tomorrow night. Do they roll over and let the Titans have their way or do they play out just like any other regular season game? Titans and Blazers win tomorrow night and Boston has to go play in front of 10-15 Titans fans. That sucks.

[WingsfaninMA]

Actually, if the Titans and Blazers win, the Blazers go to Buffalo and the winner of PHI/ROC goes to NY. NY would win the East in that scenario.

[GCTales]

In that case...

Go NOT BUFFALO
Go NOT BUGS

A WINGS - TITANS Playoff game is as good as a home game...