Game 1 - Adanacs vs Shamrocks

[CW7]

Just finished following the game on WLA website and it is really too bad that the game was not on PPV. It must have been one heck of a game with the Adanacs coming out on top 17-15.

This was the first game of the season that the Adanacs actually played with a starting lineup. If anyone watched the game would love to hear about it.

[thundertoes]

Unbelievable game until approx 38seconds to go and Victoria going on power play. The most ignorant move by a ref I have ever seen. Players getting setup, ref drops the ball just over center and blows the whistle within NOONE near him. Victoria looses possesion after grabbing the ball and getting shoved over the line, they are in total confusion and p***** over what the ref just did, Coquitlam runs down and scores (and then another into the empty net)
Ref cost them this game! Most attrocious move by a ref I have ever seen!
Way to try and sell the sport of lacrosse with an ignorant move like that!

[shameshame]

can't wait till thursday.

[CW7]

Originally Posted by thundertoes

Unbelievable game until approx 38seconds to go and Victoria going on power play. The most ignorant move by a ref I have ever seen. Players getting setup, ref drops the ball just over center and blows the whistle within NOONE near him. Victoria looses possesion after grabbing the ball and getting shoved over the line, they are in total confusion and p***** over what the ref just did, Coquitlam runs down and scores (and then another into the empty net)
Ref cost them this game! Most attrocious move by a ref I have ever seen!
Way to try and sell the sport of lacrosse with an ignorant move like that!

Sounds like everyone was ready except the Vic players. Thanks for the update on the game.

[Crabman19]

Originally Posted by thundertoes

Unbelievable game until approx 38seconds to go and Victoria going on power play. The most ignorant move by a ref I have ever seen. Players getting setup, ref drops the ball just over center and blows the whistle within NOONE near him. Victoria looses possesion after grabbing the ball and getting shoved over the line, they are in total confusion and p***** over what the ref just did, Coquitlam runs down and scores (and then another into the empty net)
Ref cost them this game! Most attrocious move by a ref I have ever seen!
Way to try and sell the sport of lacrosse with an ignorant move like that!

yes, it was a attrocious move by the ref, however, the Shamrocks made plenty of mental errors all game long that cost them big time.

For example, they had the wrong guys out on the floor when Coq was ragging the ball and had to concede their whole power play cause they couldn't get the ball back from the Coq raggers. Wiles was off again, dropping passes, dropping his stick, taking no angle low percentage shots. Shattler took a stupid retaliation penalty in the 3rd period for no good reason. D.Llord got burned for 2 goals wandering around lost with no check. Shamrock defence really misses Stobart out there, he has been their rock all year, hopefully he's back full strength tomorrow night. Shamrocks got outworked big time in the 1st period and the scoreboard showed it. At least they got their act together for most of the 2nd period to comeback and take the lead.

Bottom line, Shamrocks have to be mentally alot tougher than last nights effort, and they also have to be willing to win the war in the trenches for loose balls. They won't win this series on talent alone.

[CW7]

Originally Posted by Crabman19

yes, it was a attrocious move by the ref, however, the Shamrocks made plenty of mental errors all game long that cost them big time.

For example, they had the wrong guys out on the floor when Coq was ragging the ball and had to concede their whole power play cause they couldn't get the ball back from the Coq raggers.

Bottom line, Shamrocks have to be mentally alot tougher than last nights effort, and they also have to be willing to win the war in the trenches for loose balls. They won't win this series on talent alone.

On the move from the ref I talked to a few folks who said the Vic players just weren't ready. Apparently Ratcliff was near the ball, but McBride alertly scooped the ball, bobbled it, lost it back to Ratcliff, but had the presence to knock Lewis over the line for a change of possession. Also heard that the penalty they called on Wulder at 19:21 of the 3rd period was a pretty questionable.

The issue of ragging the ball still drives me nuts, maybe not you. Took a young JR A hockey player to a game one night and he couldn't understand that rule. He was trying to figure out where is the advantage on having a penalty when the other team just runs around with the ball. I know it is part of the game, some like and some don't.

There are a lot of warriors on the Adanac team who have been to the big show in the NLL and now that they finally have a full starting lineup. If they can stop taking (hello Ray Guze) dumb penalties they have a shot against Vic. Looking forward to Thursday night.

[green monster]

wulder's penalty was just, and another example of his aging frustrations. the vic players were ready but for some reason ref extraordinaire was standing next to ward instead of over by the boards watching the benches and got in his way after the face-off.
ragging the ball is an art-form! and yes, guze should shut-the hell-up.
i can't wait till tomorrow night

[Crabman19]

Originally Posted by green monster

wulder's penalty was just, and another example of his aging frustrations. the vic players were ready but for some reason ref extraordinaire was standing next to ward instead of over by the boards watching the benches and got in his way after the face-off.ragging the ball is an art-form! and yes, guze should shut-the hell-up.
i can't wait till tomorrow night

The play you mention above was the final goal of the game, #17 for Coquitlam. The goal and play preceding it everyone else is referring to is #16 for Coq in which pesky but clutch C.Malawsky scored shorthanded after the 'possession debacle' as it may become known in this series .

[thegreenbastard]

ok i wasnt at the game, and am only going on reports of fellow fans but here is the situation as i see. Vic was getting ready for a power play and the ref wanted to blow the play in. i imagine he gave the Vic players enough time to get into position and set up but the ref can only wait so long. many times we have seen the ref blow a play in when a team delays in picking up the ball. So if victoria didn't get into position in time then this isn't the referees fault.

this is what i was afraid of in this series. vic as tons of talent and of course i want to see them win, but they are going to have to play a full 60 with whatever line up they put out there. And Coquitlam now has all the momentum and the confidence they can take it to the rocks. Tomorrow night will be a beauty of match

[shameshame]

Originally Posted by CW7

The issue of ragging the ball still drives me nuts, maybe not you. Took a young JR A hockey player to a game one night and he couldn't understand that rule. He was trying to figure out where is the advantage on having a penalty when the other team just runs around with the ball. I know it is part of the game, some like and some don't.

CW7

I am a very big backer of the ragging rule....like green side it is an art... and watching the 1999 mann cup, gait was one of the best at it. having a full team running after a guy that is working so hard to keep that ball. Is something that the kids should look up too. Its like watching JV picking up loosey's. You just stand there and take it all in.

[laxjunkie1]

I agree; although there should be some kind of rule to help take the ball off the "ragger" I have seen refs call the chesting? call where the ragger holds the pocket up against his chest...p.s. shame I have that 99 dvd ( vic had some big solid boys!!)and may have to go watch that and a very very young toth!!It's cool watching old games when I get a chance to see some of the great names of the past. a lot of who are now in the coaching and management side

[Dave S-C]

Originally Posted by CW7

He was trying to figure out where is the advantage on having a penalty when the other team just runs around with the ball. I know it is part of the game, some like and some don't.

There's nothing wrong with ragging.

It's all very simple: if the team on the powerplay cannot manage to get the ball back from a team down a man, then that is their loss. If a team down a man can effective kill off the penalty, then why should they be further penalised for being able to do so?

My own team has often had problems trying to regain possession from an opposing rag when we have the powerplay, all the power to the other team for being able to do so. It's our own fault for not being able to use our own man advantage to get the ball back - what more to do we need? Have the penalised team play with one hand behind their back or hop around on one foot?

[CW7]

Originally Posted by Dave S-C

There's nothing wrong with ragging.

It's all very simple: if the team on the powerplay cannot manage to get the ball back from a team down a man, then that is their loss. If a team down a man can effective kill off the penalty, then why should they be further penalised for being able to do so?

My own team has often had problems trying to regain possession from an opposing rag when we have the powerplay, all the power to the other team for being able to do so. It's our own fault for not being able to use our own man advantage to get the ball back - what more to do we need? Have the penalised team play with one hand behind their back or hop around on one foot?

Play the same rule as the NLL.

[Dave S-C]

Originally Posted by CW7

Play the same rule as the NLL.

Play the same rule as the CLA (as its been around longer)