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thundertoes · #1 09-13-2009, 12:07 AM

Wow, what a game... 5-3 after 2 for New West.
Brampton going to have to dig deep if they want to win. New West's D is so big and quick, Brampton not getting alot of quality chances.

Rabid Camel · #2 09-13-2009, 12:37 AM

here we go again...7-6 NW with 8 minutes to go

Rabid Camel · #3 09-13-2009, 12:55 AM

unreal...Gajic stripped and Carnegie ties it at 7-7 with 15 seconds left

thundertoes · #4 09-13-2009, 12:58 AM

un-freakin-believable. WHat a game!!

halfcent · #5 09-13-2009, 01:05 AM

Whatever the outcome is, full credit MUST be given to Brampton for taking it to overtime in game seven. Very few of us realize just how difficult it is to play seven games away from home eating restaurant food and sleeping in a hotel room. It takes true grit to be able to accomplish it.

My hat is off to both teams for putting on an unbelievable display of courage under fire.

thundertoes · #6 09-13-2009, 01:14 AM

Whoever called the play for Gajic to run back into his own zone.. which ended up with Gajic giving up the ball and lead to a Brampton goal.. should be fired from New West!
Way to go Brampton!!

thundertoes · #7 09-13-2009, 01:15 AM

Brampton MANN CUP CHAMPIONS!!! WOHHOOOOOO!!!!

RockStar#666 · #8 09-13-2009, 01:19 AM

It's official!

Brampton in OT. One goal game plus empty netter.

RockStar#666 · #9 09-13-2009, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thundertoes

Whoever called the play for Gajic to run back into his own zone.. which ended up with Gajic giving up the ball and lead to a Brampton goal.. should be fired from New West!
Way to go Brampton!!

Only because he was sent back there without a man to make an easy pass to and got doubled....it could have been a sensible play.

RockStar#666 · #10 09-13-2009, 01:23 AM

Congratulations Shawn Williams.

Mike Kelly award winner, and I think, first Mann.

Not a bad summer - clutch goals fuel Nationals to the Steinfeld's Cup. MVP in a rare road win of a Mann

doylerocks · #11 09-13-2009, 01:40 AM

It was an incredible series. NW you played incredible. But gotta love Brampton for coming through when it counted. Way to go boys! Grumpmedia - great coverage - after game 1. See you next summer.

lacrosseblogger · #12 09-13-2009, 01:53 AM

Yes, Brampton played well. They came on strong when it really counted. And the Bellies played extremely well until they didn't. If only they could have kept their momentum just a bit longer either yesterday or today...

Maybe next year, sigh.

dougm · #13 09-13-2009, 07:45 AM

why am i not surprised that doyle scored the cup-winner.
please leave him out of the east. i think every team in the east should pay a fee to the stealth to keep him out of here.

what a big 3 for brampton - brodie, ddd and doyle.

Rabid Camel · #14 09-13-2009, 09:40 AM

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what a big 3 for brampton - brodie, ddd and doyle.

...big 4 with Josh Sanderson...not even to mention Shawn Williams who was the leading scorer in the series...and of course Cosmo.

Brampton would win the NLL if that team played there.

goddessoflax · #15 09-13-2009, 10:02 AM

Plus...

....all the other guys...DDD's baby brother & his brother in law, Brodie's brother, Shooter's cousin....guys who you don't know unless you follow this team. A kid like #13 who played for both the Excelsiors & their Senior B affiliate all summer. PC, who does the best doors in the business. A team captain who has been around forever.

And added to that....timely goals from role players to give the "stars" a chance to shine.

This is a team in the truest sense of the word. Because if you ask the guys who is the best they are more likely to tell you about the guy who motivates in the dressing room or the equipment/training staff that are second to none.

RockStar#666 · #16 09-13-2009, 10:27 AM

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...big 4 with Josh Sanderson...not even to mention Shawn Williams......

No coincidence that four of the guys cited in this thread fill out the top 6 of NLL scoring race.

These N-W, Brampton, and Peterborough teams would finish 1-2-3 in the NLL most seasons, irrespective of which set of rules were used. If CLA rules were used, they'd destroy whatever made up the rest of the NLL.

bclaX70 · #17 09-13-2009, 12:22 PM

What a series the best team won and I was glad to see they gave the MVP to someone who had the point totals.

CW7 · #18 09-13-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RockStar#666

Only because he was sent back there without a man to make an easy pass to and got doubled....it could have been a sensible play.

With 31 seconds left in the game and the game clock on your side they should have been able to hold onto the ball, especially since NW likely has the best short man D in the league once they have the ball.

Sending Gajic back to get an easy pass was the play, but don't try to run it out of your zone. He (Gajic) played well all series, however he was banged up a great deal. Not sure why he didn't pass the ball after he got the ball.

You have to feel a little sorry for NW, a tough series of OT losses.

Phil Ex · #19 09-13-2009, 02:26 PM

IMHO, I think that it was a coaching error the last play of regulation. NW should have pulled their goalie. They had posession of the ball. With an extra attacker on the floor there would not have been two guys on Gajic. He was the guy to hold the ball but its tough with two guys on you. I hope that he does not blame himself for the loss because it was not his fault.

Gutsy move for Brampton to pull their goalie on that play with NW in posession, but that allowed for the extra man on Gajic.

Great series. Congrats to both teams for providing the most entertaining lacrosse in a long time.

RockStar#666 · #20 09-13-2009, 03:28 PM

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Sending Gajic back to get an easy pass was the play..........

I didn't see any pass that he could have made.......didn't look like anyone from N-W was anywhere near this except for Richards, and I am not sure Richards had stepped out of the crease ready for a pass.

I agree it's wise to use the whole floor when you're trying to kill the clock. Thing is, it was pure dumb not to have a friendly man or two nearby trying to stay open to be an "easy" outlet pass.

I agree with Phil that you could pull your own goalie. I'll offer that you don't even need to do that. Simple move of Richards stepping into open space near left crease screws Brampton just as hard as an extra runner - Catch 22 - If they want to double someone, they can't press the goalie.....When you get down to it, this play should only have been marginally tougher than a routine, even strength clear.

Whatever. This was one of the final straws, but it wasn't the only thing.....They had a late 7-4 lead and should have been able to ice this one on that basis.

Crabman19 · #21 09-13-2009, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RockStar#666

I'll offer that you don't even need to do that. Simple move of Richards stepping into open space near left crease screws Brampton just as hard as an extra runner -

You make a great point, and I really like that move although I would say doing that depends on how athletic and how good of a stick your goalie has. Some goalies ( like Nick Patterson, for example) have better stick skills and passing ability than many defenders in the league, he would have been perfect for that situation. I haven't seen enough of Richards to say if this would have been a smart play for New West. Its coulda, woulda, shoulda kind of stuff now though...

ND14 · #22 09-14-2009, 05:50 AM

The Bellies could have pulled the goalie, but realistically they shouldn't have to. Gajic should have been attempting to pass it out of the double team as soon as possible rather than planning on ragging the ball himself.

Does anyone know why Stewart didn't play? He would have been the ideal player to carry the ball at that point.

laxhawker · #23 09-14-2009, 02:39 PM

The 2 clubs were so evenly matched witnessed by all over the overtime games as well tight game #7. Last 30 seconds 4 on 4 with possession at centre floor should have had an outlet or safety man with Gajic and Richards was standing in his crease. Ilija should have ran it back if he didn't get support wing it full floor and make Brampton fight it 200 ft. against the clock. instead of getting stripped on his own in his end. Coaching error for not setting the play and players just stood and let Gajic take it alone.* Game note what was a Jr A player doing on the floor in that situation, Crowley was like a deer in the headlights and feet in cement when the whistle blew he froze. Bad move Salt. Great tourney tho full marks the Brampton boys they didn't quit...ever.

CW7 · #24 09-14-2009, 04:03 PM

Lots of very interesting observations on the last 30 seconds of the game. One other observation and this is with all due respect to Gajic, but I would have had Jordan Hall handle the ball. Proven smart, tough kid with the Titans in the NLL and with a lot more experience than Gajic.

Purplenurple · #25 09-14-2009, 04:12 PM

A costly lesson to be learned for the Salmonbellies and Gajic. When 4 on 4 there should always be off ball movement to create an opening, at the very least the goaltender being an outlet. One might have even pulled the goalie for the extra attacker and spread the floor. Great series that could've gone either way. I'm surprised at the MVP selection but at least they didn't give it to the "Great White Hype". Williams had the point totals and besides Doyle scoring timely goals no one really stood out on the BEs. The Salmonbellies had a few great performances, it's ironic one of those players ended up playing a large role in letting the Mann slip away.